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#1 13-04-2011 14:14:39

Bond
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D.A.K. or not D.A.K. that is the question?

Hi all,

There is a lot of debate about what is D.A.K., in terms of military formations which are classed as D.A.K. which should include the 5th light Division which was later renamed the 21st Panzer division, and the 15th Panzer division, along with the Aufklarungsstab Rommel.

Were only these units considered to be DAK or Afrikakorps and are these the only units entitled to wear the AFRIKAKORPS cuff title?  Or is thought that non DAK units could also wear it, as in the case of the Afrika with palms cufftitle?


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Jerry


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Jerry B.

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#2 13-04-2011 15:15:28

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Re: D.A.K. or not D.A.K. that is the question?

Copied this list of DAK units from the Axis History factbook, which is the same (from a quick look) as that listed in Bender's Afrikakorps book.


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Jerry

Afrika Korps (also Deutsches Afrika Korps) was destroyed in Tunisia 16 May 1943.

Commanders
Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel       (14 Feb 1941 - 15 Aug 1941)
Generalleutnant Ferdinand Schaal       (15 Aug 1941 - 1 Sep 1941)
General der Panzertruppen Philipp Müller-Gebhard       (1 Sep 1941 - 15 Sep 1941)
General der Panzertruppen Ludwig Crüwell       (15 Sep 1941 - 9 Mar 1942)
General der Panzertruppen Walther Nehring       (9 Mar 1942 - 19 Mar 1942)
General der Panzertruppen Ludwig Crüwell       (19 Mar 1942 - 29 May 1942)
General der Panzertruppen Walther Nehring       (29 May 1942 - 31 Aug 1942)
Generalleutnant Fritz Bayerlein       (31 Aug 1942 - 1 Sep 1942)
General der Panzertruppen Gustav von Värst       (1 Sep 1942 - 2 Sep 1942)
General der Panzertruppen Wilhelm Ritter von Thoma       (2 Sep 1942 - 13 Nov 1942)
General der Panzertruppen Gustav Fehn       (13 Nov 1942 - 15 Jan 1943)
General der Panzertruppen Hans Cramer       (28 Feb 1943 - 16 May 1943)

Area of operations
North Africa       (Feb 1941 - May 1943)

Order of battle
Stab des korps
5. Leichte Division
15. Panzer-Division
Korpskartenstelle (mot) 576
Oasen-Bataillon zbv 300
Panzerjäger-Abteilung (mot) 605
I/Flak Regiment (mot) 18
I/Flak Regiment (mot) 33
Flak-Abteilung (mot) 606
Nachrichten-Abteilung (mot) 475
   Leichte Nachrichtenkolonne
   Funkleitstand Zug 10
   Panzer Funk Zug
   Funk Zug
   Fernkabel Zug
Nachschub-Bataillon (mot) 572
   Grosse Kraftwagenkolonne
   Grosse Kraftwagenkolonne für Betriebsstoff
   Kraftwagenwerkstat Zug
   Munitionsverwaltung Kompanie 588
Wasserversirgungs Bataillon (mot) 580
   Wasserversorgungs Kompanie (SW) 659
   Wasserdestillations Kompanie (mot) 655
   Grosse Wasserkolonne 641
   Grosse Wasserkolonne 645
   Grosse Wasserkolonne 651
   Filterkolonne 877
   Wehrgeologenstelle (mot) 8
   Wehrgeologenstelle (mot) 12
Aufklärungs Kompanie (mot) 580
Feldersatz Bataillon 598
Feldersatz Bataillon 599
Bäckerei Kompanie (mot) 554
Korps-Verpflegungslager (mot)
Feldgendarmerie-Trupp (mot) 498
Feldpostamt (mot)

Last edited by VonBond (13-04-2011 15:15:51)


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#3 16-04-2011 10:51:19

Bond
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Re: D.A.K. or not D.A.K. that is the question?

I had a partial answer on this on another forum.

The AKCT could be issued to anyone who served the required 2 months in Africa and as it was a unit cufftitle and not a campaign cufftitle, does that mean that they would be considered by the Germans as members of the Afrikakorps?  So, how does that affect us as collectors and are we more picky than the Germans were?  So is DAK different from Afrikakorps?

Regards,

Jerry


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Jerry B.

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#4 29-06-2011 10:32:50

The Magpie
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Registered: 29-06-2011
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Re: D.A.K. or not D.A.K. that is the question?

The DAK & Afrikakorps are the 5th Lt & 15th Pz Div thats it including some LW flak units. The 90th lt was not considered as part of the DAK (bunch of foreigners) nor the 164th. Von Arnims 10th Pz Div did not think they were members of the DAK either. They looked at the DAK as a defeated German corps, while they had been at the gates of Moscow...however post war some members did consider themselves as being in the DAK.

Nowadays any German solder that served in Afrika could be called a member of the DAK just like any Allied solder could be called a Desert Rat, but this is false. Only the 7th Armd Div were Desert Rats. The Ramcke Brig did not consider themselves as part of the DAK and resented the DAK somewhat. Especially after being abandoned at Alamein....

Here on this DAK Forum the DAK should be recognized for who they really were. The other German solders should be called members of the 5th Pz Army. or perhaps Afrikaners is another way to address this question. Would not consider the AKCT as a way to tell either. Many who received this award were not members of the DAK though it was a unit CT not a campaign CT. It was awarded to anyone serving in Afrika up to late '42.

The DAK was destroyed at Alamein, and what showed up in Tunisia was a mere shadow of its former self a small kampgruppe, made up of replacements from wounded members of the DAK earlier. While the 21st was also rebuilt from replacements from Europe.

Last edited by The Magpie (05-07-2011 09:07:04)

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