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#1 29-09-2018 22:32:43

Marseille42
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Registered: 29-09-2018
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German Pith Helmet 1st Pattern Shield

https://preview.ibb.co/jz159K/03_BD388_F_89_FB_4_E48_93_EB_1_A860_FF367_E7.jpg
https://preview.ibb.co/dJtVbz/1_D460_D69_D60_D_4_C0_F_9541_3_F684_A83_EA4_F.jpg
https://preview.ibb.co/dNqbGz/87_DFECD7_C27_A_4499_9_F06_1_C9_B46_BD4_A26.jpg

Is something wrong with this shield ? Thank you

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#2 30-09-2018 11:02:33

msteve21
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From: Australia
Registered: 05-12-2011
Posts: 571

Re: German Pith Helmet 1st Pattern Shield

Looks Ok from the front, would need to see a reverse photo to confirm if its 100% original
Cheers
Msteve


Collector of DAK & Panzer Militia
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#3 30-09-2018 13:12:23

Markus
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From: Australia
Registered: 24-10-2014
Posts: 546

Re: German Pith Helmet 1st Pattern Shield

Hi Marseille42, welcome to the forum. I agree with msteve21, some more photo's if possible, including across the face of the national emblem shield.

Is the black part of the badge behind the eagle "pebbled" in appearance, I just can't tell from the photo's.

There are some members of the forum that specialise in Tropenhelms and should be able to give you a considered opinion.

I'd also have a look at some other shields that appear in the thread on tropical pith helmets, which can be found here smile http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/viewtopic.php?id=14

I've seen that there is one shield that looks very similar to yours attached to a later pattern felt helmet in the thread which I've hyperlinked above...

Regards Markus

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_2n9f139.jpg

Last edited by Markus (30-09-2018 13:58:14)

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#4 01-10-2018 15:59:34

Marseille42
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Registered: 29-09-2018
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Re: German Pith Helmet 1st Pattern Shield

Hello smile

Thank you for your ansewers, i will take other fotos soon, is habe no doubt that is original but some guys sayed its fake.
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Nice forum but the fotos are a problem, too small sad

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#5 11-10-2018 10:59:42

Marseille42
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Registered: 29-09-2018
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Re: German Pith Helmet 1st Pattern Shield

here are the new pictures

http://up.picr.de/34040903dj.jpg

http://up.picr.de/34040904ca.jpg

http://up.picr.de/34040905px.jpg

http://up.picr.de/34040906wh.jpg

http://up.picr.de/34040907gy.jpg

http://up.picr.de/34040908zr.jpg

http://up.picr.de/34040909cs.jpg

http://up.picr.de/34040910km.jpg

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#6 13-10-2018 00:40:50

msteve21
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From: Australia
Registered: 05-12-2011
Posts: 571

Re: German Pith Helmet 1st Pattern Shield

In my opinion an original shield that's been post war repainted
Easy enough to find another war time example in original condition and replace it
MSteve


Collector of DAK & Panzer Militia
Great Southern Land

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#7 13-10-2018 03:50:18

Markus
Veteran DAK Member
From: Australia
Registered: 24-10-2014
Posts: 546

Re: German Pith Helmet 1st Pattern Shield

Hi Marseille42, thanks for the new photos - they are in a nice large clear format so well done smile

The Tropenhelm itself looks like a nice original Heer headgear piece, complete with chinstrap.

Unfortunately I'm not an expert on helmet shields, but I agree that the face of this shield appears to be newly painted whilst the rear is aged. 

I suppose the biggest thing for me is that the two shields appear to differ distinctly in terms of wear and ageing.  This difference and the fact that two of the pins are
broken off suggests that the shield may not be original to the Tropenhelm; or that the original has been removed for painting and been damaged during this process. 

It's a nice pith helmet and IMO you may want to consider getting another original eagle shield with matching wear to the tri-colour shield (which may very well be original
to the Tropenhelm).   You'd just need to careful attaching it - as you've seen the pins can break easily.

Thanks for posting.


Regards Markus

Last edited by Markus (13-10-2018 06:56:26)

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