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#26 05-10-2018 04:50:54

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Hi, a recent purchase - a tropical Funkmeister badge.

Anyone have a photo of this being worn on a tunic?

Regards Markus.

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http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc02931.jpg


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http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc02932.jpg

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#27 07-10-2018 08:16:27

msteve21
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Had a look at some pics over the weekend, no luck Markus
There is this from a previous post

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/75_2587_radio_operator.jpg

Actually quite rare to find period photos of speciality badges been worn

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#28 07-10-2018 12:14:52

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Thanks msteve21, agree very unusual to find specialist badges in use on tropical uniforms, apart from some rare examples.

The main ones I've observed are the medical specialist badge and the signal blitz in areas like Greece or Italy.  I think that the problem with the signal blitz
was similar to the soutache on tropical caps - the individual colour for the different arms of services was a logistical problem when this needed to be permanently affixed
to an item of clothing.  (Lot easier to have a generic cap and swap slip on shoulder boards with the correct arm of service Waffenfarbe on tunics).

The very few signal blitzes that I've seen that appear to have been affixed to tunics looked to have been very crudely tacked on by the soldiers themselves.

I've even sat there staring at film footage of long lines of German troops as they've filed past following surrender in Tunisia and virtually nothing at all to be seen, despite the fact that these
tropical specialist badges appear to have been available from 1942...

Regards Markus

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#29 19-10-2018 15:01:57

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Another example of the signal blitz being worn in North Africa, but again this appears to be a continental blitz
attached to a tropical tunic...  Just lucky with this photo that the tunic was placed on the ground in a position where the
blitz was visible.

Given the large field of view from this position and equipment I'm assuming this was likely to be a forward artillery observation
post and if so the blitz itself would be red.  If you look carefully you can see the single chevron of a tropical Gefreiter rank badge
worn directly below the signal blitz.

Regards Markus

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_radio_operators_dak.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_radio_operator_blitz.jpg


The insignia set up on this tunic would have looked something like this....

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03022.jpg

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#30 21-10-2018 09:08:21

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Well, its Sunday afternoon and raining here in Brisbane and I thought I’d take some time to carefully have another look
at some of the videos of German forces surrendering in Tunisia in 1943 on Youtube.

You’ve got to be pretty sharp eyed and I’ve spotted some specialist insignia, some of which was only visible for a second or less…

These examples were found in a video titled Tunisian Campaign (1943), which can be viewed by accessing this
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcXlNlQ9uTs

Regards Markus

At 13:54 a soldier with a well-faded tunic appears to be wearing a signal blitz above his rank insignia.
http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_faded_tunic_signal_blitz.jpg   http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_faded_tunic_signal_blitz_2.jpg



At 14:41 a soldier steps into frame for 1 second, wearing an overcoat (maybe a Wachmantel due to the size of the collar) wearing a
signal blitz – the blitz itself looks light in colour so probably transport or Flak.
http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_mantel_signal_blitz.jpg   http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_transport_blitz.jpg   OR   http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_flak_blitz.jpg


I've created a separate post for Schirrmeister badges, so if you're looking for the example from the video that was previously shown in this post it can be accessed by
clicking on this link smile  http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/viewto … 406#p18406

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#31 21-10-2018 10:30:50

msteve21
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Great info Markus, can you put a link to the video up?
Cheers
MSteve

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#32 21-10-2018 10:59:45

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Hi, here is the link to the Tunisian Campaign (1943) video wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcXlNlQ9uTs

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#33 23-10-2018 03:37:42

msteve21
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Thx Markus:)


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#34 31-10-2018 11:59:19

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Another example of the humble signal blitz, though this one looks to have been tunic attached at some stage in its life,
as there are thread holes right around the perimeter of the badge and some wear to the edges....

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03017.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03018.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03008.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03010.jpg

Regards Markus

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#35 02-11-2018 06:06:45

msteve21
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Nice Blitz
MSteve


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#36 02-11-2018 13:12:32

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Thanks Mark smile

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#37 01-12-2018 01:22:35

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

A couple of examples of the blitz variation I have not seen that often, light tan twill and edging.


Pioniere

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03058.jpg          http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_blitz_reverse.jpg




Jäger / Panzergrenadier

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03063.jpg          http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03064.jpg



And a comparison of the twill and edging materials of different tropical tunic badges...

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03067.jpg


Regards Markus

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#38 01-12-2018 16:23:04

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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Nice insignia.  Rich A. in Pa.


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#39 02-12-2018 06:09:37

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Thanks Rich smile

Regards Markus

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#40 02-12-2018 11:49:25

KeithTurner
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Great images and superb insignia, thank you all for sharing.

Enjoy the hobby, Keith

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#41 03-12-2018 01:49:03

Markus
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From: Australia
Registered: 24-10-2014
Posts: 602

Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Thanks for the kind comments Keith smile

Regards Markus

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#42 09-12-2018 05:46:30

Markus
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From: Australia
Registered: 24-10-2014
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

Hi, just came across this unusual tropical blitz variation, obviously on a dealers website.

Has anyone ever seen this type before - this is the only tropical blitz example I've seen which is in circular shape and the blitz
embroidery is in a squatter format....

Regards Markus

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_pionier_blitz_.jpg        http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_pionier_blitz_reverse.jpg

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#43 12-12-2018 12:56:25

Markus
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Re: Tropical Signal Insignia

And another blitz clearly tunic removed...

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03096.jpg        http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dsc03097.jpg


...and here's some photos of signalers in service in North Africa - pity the right part of their tunic sleeve is not visible neutral

Regards Markus

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dak_funker.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_dak_op.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_sig_tobruk.jpg


And here's another still shot taken from a YouTube video which shows a German POW at El Alamein in 1942 - again
a continental blitz over rank badge... also wearing continental shoulder straps.
http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_german_pow_el_alamein_1942.jpg



And another POW photo - well there was one on this tunic but we will never know what it was neutral
http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2587_signal_blitz_removed.jpg

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