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#1 19-06-2017 22:42:44

Rebbaron55
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US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Hi guys! This is an early war field jacket of the type used heavily in the Tunisian campaign. There are a couple models with different methods of attaching the manufacturers tags and a few other design changes. I have a field jacket that will be the first on shown, that has a tag in both front pockets that are partially ledgible.  The size is additionally shown on a tag on the neck. Hope you will enjoy!  Barron  smile

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08138_zpsgeuqirhv.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08142_zpsbmggpuw6.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08145_zps3cil7rsp.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08144_zpsgjy11ob6.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08143_zpsxacm0clj.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC02555_zpsonm3rlo4.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08139_zpseyne08ob.jpg,

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#2 19-06-2017 23:05:25

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Nice that it has most of a tag. To bad it is a small size. Rich A. in Pa.


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#3 21-06-2017 00:41:23

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Hi Barron
please why do you say that is an early war field jacket of the type used heavily in the Tunisian campaign? It seems to me a standard M41 jacket....
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Marco

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#4 21-06-2017 04:54:59

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Zip! Since the Torch landings in Algeria and the Tunisian campaign were the Americans first major actions in ETO/MTO since Pearl Harbor a year earlier . Many other early items of equipment  were used and found to be insufficient for the later campaigns such as the M3 Lee/Grant tanks (gone by Sicily except as tractors), many types of compasses (as I featured earlier) and the model 1941 or Parson's Jacket which was mostly eliminated by the greatly improved M1943 Field Jacket that came out in early 1944. I will be displaying the other version of the model 1941 jacket with manufacturer tags missing shortly.

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#5 21-06-2017 15:51:01

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Ciao Barron
here is my First Infantry Division soldier as you could see during the Torch landings and Siciliy landings.
It has a very early war uniform and equipment.
You can see a nice and very rare Field Jacket M.38 "Pearson" (PQD 20). Characteristically it has made without the shoulder loops, but with the pocket flaps. Two fabrics for the outer shell were tested. One fabric was the khaki twill, the same used for the tanker jacket, the other fabric was a poplin cloth. The lining was made of flannel wool for insolation, the same fabric as what the service shirt is made of. Finally the poplin jacket with the pocket flaps but without the shoulder loops was accepted. Standardized as the "Jacket, Field, od", patern date 1/24/41, P.Q.D. No. 20.
This is the first rare variant with the khaki twill outer shell.
The trousers are the early first pattern, with pockets vertically cut to the sides, without flap at the left back pocket and without anti-gas protection under the frontal buttons.
The shoes are the Type II, the correct model used in Africa, Sicily and early fase of Pacific campaign.
You can see also the M6 bag for AG mask in the early OD #3 color and a TL-122-A flashlight (the earlier moldel) made by the USALITE (the rarest maker of TL-122-A)
Finally you can see an M1 helmet, McCord shell with Hood Rubber liner both with the frontal insignia of the Big Red One.

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http://i68.tinypic.com/w2www.jpg

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this was a respirator specially designed for African sands

http://i64.tinypic.com/k2lcme.jpg

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#6 21-06-2017 23:04:20

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Nice display. Rich A. in Pa.


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#7 22-06-2017 07:31:57

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Nice grouping Zip! Wish my wife would let me have mannequins for my stuff! She thinks they are too creepy! roll Here is my example of the Parsons jacket but all the tags have been removed as is common-darn it! it again has the straps but has many differences from my other jacket such as the waist belt area and the ID tag locations. Otherwise it is in pretty good shape except for the missing tags, torn pocket and missing button.  Barron

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08149_zpsqnhpjzjl.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08150_zpswbt9qsbm.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08153_zpsooxkpjga.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08152_zpslss4dcg3.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08148_zpsx4avytor.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08151_zpshnfnjrin.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08147_zpsbtt9fgha.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC06580_zpsw3anzoof.jpg

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#8 22-06-2017 12:26:25

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Nice coat. Rich A. in Pa.


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#9 22-06-2017 23:23:03

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Hi Friends
thanks for compliments. Finding original early USA items is not so easy! So it is very very difficult to made up an early war mannequin.

Barron I'm sorry to contradict you often sad
but your nice jacket is not an M38 field jacket, it is too long and has many other differences. (shoulder straps, straps at the side and wrist of the buckle and strap type instead of the regular buttoned tabs).
It is an Arctic Field Jacket (Q.M.C. Tent. Spec. Q.P.D. No. 97, Dated 10/6/41).
It was the winter version of the M41 jacket, known as Jacket, Field, o.d., Arctic. It was made longer to cover the hips, with a thicker cotton shell and heavier wool lining, just like the tankers jacket.
This jacket first saw combat in the pacific theatre. (Aleutians campaign)
During the Battle of the Bulge, because of a shortage of winter combat clothing, to provide the troops with a combat jacket for the upcoming winter campaign some units were issued the arctic jackets. One of the units who received a great number arctic jackets was the 2nd Infantry Division and the boys who survived the brutal winter fighting, wore these jackets right into Czech until the end of war in Europe.

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#10 23-06-2017 07:53:03

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Awesome Zip! I don't consider it a contradiction, just additional info! Sure hard to find this variety with intact manufacturer's tags! Do remember too that the opening winter campaign in Tunisia/Algeria was highlighted with very heavy rains and the Air Corps was still part of the Army. I just picked up a book on an Air Corps unit that was on its way to the Aleutians but ended up in Africa with Brereton.I was wondering how the tags on your jacket? Why did they use the old M38s when the Mountain Troops had their own cold weather jackets that could have been issued unless they were too expensive or other scarce? I also have the USN equivalent to the M38 that I was thinking of showing also as the SeaBees would have used them in Africa as shown by their participation throughout the Tunisian campaign in my earlier posting.  Barron  smile

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#11 23-06-2017 08:20:38

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Here is my USN equivalent as mentioned earlier: the N2 Jacket. Again, slight differences, mostly in color and manufacturer tags-plus the USN printed on the front! smile

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08212_zpsl7uoiujg.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08213_zpsmrtagsom.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08217_zpskqjzmqpq.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08219_zpsfdjwydsf.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08215_zpsdpz3dnwq.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08214_zpss93l9b0x.jpg,http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/barronreb/Uniforms/US%20HBT%20Utility%20Uniforms/DSC08218_zpsmithy7ru.jpg

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#12 23-06-2017 13:11:15

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Nice coat. I should find mine. I do not think it is marked on the back. Rich A. in Pa.


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#13 23-06-2017 16:04:57

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Thanks Rich for the comments! Yours should be marked on the left front as mine is just above the slant pocket, but it can be very faint! Manufacturer tags are another thing, as they faded or came off very easily like on the field jacket varieties.

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#14 23-06-2017 17:17:35

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Hi friends
I don't know why they used the old M38, surely they have been used it until stocks are exhausted.
Here is my Arctic jacket owned to a guy of the 79° ID that heavy fought at Haguenau in winter 44-45.

https://preview.ibb.co/fuYxDQ/20170623_144159.jpg

https://preview.ibb.co/ikhk05/20170623_144228.jpg

https://preview.ibb.co/mA6pSk/20170623_144303.jpg

https://preview.ibb.co/nb2tL5/sss.jpg


I have a Navy jacket too, but I doubt these jackets saw any combat in WWII....

In the early fase of war Navy issued the army M41 to its members who had to work on the beaches during an invasion, or other shore related work. This could be a Navy Shore Party or a “Seabees” Construction Battalion.
When the Army adopted the M-43 jacket, it discontinued the procurement of the M-41 jacket. So with the discontinuing of the M-41 jacket the Navy decided to have their own version manufactured. (Most contract dates found on these jackets are late 1944/early 1945. This jacket was still an issue item in the late 50’s, early 60’s).

The jacket, generally referred to as the Navy M-41 jacket, was officially called the “Jackets, Field, N-4”. 
It was of a more simplified design, omitting the epaulettes, wrist straps and side tabs. The outer shell was of a heavier cotton in the new OD#7 green. The lining was the same as the M-41, but more a brown color. The collar tab closure was changed to a simple button closure.
Because it was intended for shore use, it was considered a field jacket. But it was also issued to ship crew members in lieu with the heavier N-1 deck jacket. (In the Navy all jackets used for work were habitually called a deck jacket)

As I said most contract dates found on these jackets are late 1944/early 1945. However awarding a contract doesn’t mean that the jackets were delivered the following morning!
Production lines had to be set up and materials had to be procured, like fabric, buttons and zippers. Depending on the number of jackets ordered, the production could take days or weeks. Then it had to be delivered to the Navy, who would have to distribute them.
Obviously the war ended before wide spread issue was completed. So it is doubtful if these jackets saw any combat at all.

Ciao

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#15 24-06-2017 08:26:54

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Agreed, lots of items used in campaign were not used in combat as there were a lot of non-combat services required to support an army in the field. Those items though did end up in the field often especially in instances of deep penetrations  by combat forces such as at Kasserine Pass. Also bomber and transport crews as most operations in Africa were flown at low altitudes.

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#16 24-06-2017 10:28:55

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Correct. But remember, your Navy jacket never saw the sands of Africa with the SeaBees!
Probably these jackets were never used during WWII.
I have one of them only to complete my M41 collection.

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#17 06-07-2017 18:19:10

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

Hi Zip! I have been having some trouble with my "Photobucket" picture hosting site. You did notice my thread on SeaBees in African campaign I hope? My jacket also was bought several years ago to supplement M41 study so I understand your position! Never have found a good reference on the subject of US Field Jackets, only partial coverage!

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#18 07-07-2017 09:53:05

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Re: US 1941 Model Field Jacket

See this site. it is very nice.

http://yankreenactment.nl/uniforms/m-41-jacket/

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