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#1 25-04-2017 18:13:56

zip3120
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Army tropical shoulder boards

Hi my friends
please I need your help for these boards.
Are they original?
Are they correct fo my EM early first pattern tunic?
Many thanks
Marco

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#2 25-04-2017 23:41:19

NZMark
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

Very nice feldwebel set. Yes, these would be fine for an early tunic.
Strictly speaking, these are straps - they do not have a 'board' in them or are rigid as per officer examples.
Mark


Student & Collector of WWII German Tropical Militaria

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#3 26-04-2017 01:04:11

The Magpie
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

Ciao Marco,

Not as confident about these straps as Mark. Maybe contrived wear. & they are joined at the underside much further from the joint ? Anyone ever seen an original set with this phenomenon ? Have only seen this on modern fakes.
Also would like to know if the zigzag stitch line on the reverse of the wool backing does in fact join two piece's ?

Here is a brief thread on the WAF on this set from Regt's. Though some may diss them just cause they are from Regimentals.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ … p?t=883152

Would really like to get a "hands on" to be sure either way...

cheers
Tim

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#4 26-04-2017 04:43:08

NZMark
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

Tim,
You are right - well spotted and I stand corrected. I had not seen that thread and if Chris (90th Light) is dubious about them then I won't argue. These are, of course, the same pair as advertised by Regimentals.
Cheers!
Mark


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#5 26-04-2017 12:43:44

don_kihotis7
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

Hi guys. Yes i remember this pair as well. But can't recall the Jaegers example that was mentioned in the WAF thread.

Personally i like them and can't see anything wrong with the materials used, buttonholes stitching and the overall shape and construction. I agree that the joined looks weird but i can't dismiss them solely because of that.


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#6 26-04-2017 13:23:44

zip3120
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

The Magpie wrote:

Ciao Marco,

Maybe contrived wear. & they are joined at the underside much further from the joint ? Anyone ever seen an original set with this phenomenon ? Have only seen this on modern fakes.

Ciao Tim
many thanks for your warning (I will not buy them from Regimentals),  but please don't you think that a very clever faker like this (materials used, buttonholes stitching and the overall shape and construction) made a so obvious mistake?
Marco

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#7 27-04-2017 08:24:10

The Magpie
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

don_kihotis7 wrote:

Hi guys. Yes i remember this pair as well. But can't recall the Jaegers example that was mentioned in the WAF thread.

Personally i like them and can't see anything wrong with the materials used, buttonholes stitching and the overall shape and construction. I agree that the joined looks weird but i can't dismiss them solely because of that.

Hi Chris

Yes you and i discussed them in further detail before. The Jg set had the same problems. Remember you were all over it on the WAF thread, the owner could not except that they were bad. the join was much further away from the joint than any original straps that i have seen over the years. Never seen this until these few sets started showing up from Regt's & Poland/Germany. The fact that they are coming from Regt's does not help them either....

cheers
Tim

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#8 27-04-2017 08:37:34

The Magpie
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

zip3120 wrote:

The Magpie wrote:

Ciao Marco,

Maybe contrived wear. & they are joined at the underside much further from the joint ? Anyone ever seen an original set with this phenomenon ? Have only seen this on modern fakes.

Ciao Tim
many thanks for your warning (I will not buy them from Regimentals),  but please don't you think that a very clever faker like this (materials used, buttonholes stitching and the overall shape and construction) made a so obvious mistake?
Marco

Hi Marco

Geez, you sound like me on those threads on the WAF about whether Clemens Wagner did or did not make the tropical M40 cap ? They did ! roll lol

I can not explain the fakers, only their motives. Have only seen this phenomenon recently on straps being offered by less than reputable dealers/sellers ? There is a group in Germany/Poland that are putting out some really good fake tropical straps with original materials, usually the obviously contrived wear especially around the buttonholes gives them away. Again in hand is always better for judgement than from photos.

ciao
Tim

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#9 29-04-2017 14:06:36

don_kihotis7
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Re: Army tropical shoulder boards

Hi Tim. Yeah from that wooden box with a few more items. Those were very different though. Ugly, bad construction and with that beige material on the back of the tongues. This transport pair is different in every way. The only suspicious thing is the lower joint but as i said i wouldn't dismiss them solely because of that.
Cheers mate.


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