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#1 14-02-2012 20:44:52

andre1983nl
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repro tunic

Hi to all!

I wanted a new repro tunic.
On ebay i found this one
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/WK2-WH-Feldjacke … 4aabf8d84c


In Holland the most WW2 shop sells Sturm/Mil-Tec products

http://www.militarycollectibles4u.nl/a- … -korps-m40

looks like
http://www.ebay.de/itm/DAK-Afrikakorps- … 2189155234

I want Your opion wink

If you know a good shop/site that sells quality DAK tunic please post them.

Greetings André


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#2 23-02-2012 09:20:56

Wessels
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Re: repro tunic

The first one you listed has better scalops on the pockets as did the original first models!


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#3 24-02-2012 00:23:10

andre1983nl
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Re: repro tunic

Thx for the reply.

Well i  ordered one.
and these look beter the the Mil-tec/sturm tunics.

The cloths is glossy but a few times through the washingmachine and problem is solved.

I was thinking about a new function .
there was so many different units in Africa.
Infantry
Artillery
Gebirgsjager
Panzer-crew
Panzer Grenadiers
Gebirgs Infantry
and more


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#4 24-02-2012 11:44:47

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Re: repro tunic

very nice ! big_smile

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#5 13-03-2012 21:23:10

andre1983nl
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Re: repro tunic

your opion about the Spearhead DAK tunic second patern?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-Afri … 53e5a1c8cb


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#6 29-04-2012 12:54:20

fellmann
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Re: repro tunic

Hello

So.. the best repro DAK tunic out there, is that first one ? http://www.ebay.nl/itm/WK2-WH-Feldjacke … 4aabf8d84c

Cheers

Im also looking for best repro pants & shorts..

Last edited by fellmann (29-04-2012 12:59:32)

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#7 30-04-2012 00:45:01

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Re: repro tunic

... i bought one also lol

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#8 04-05-2012 15:45:10

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Re: repro tunic

well.. i got mine today, and trousers.

Feels good that i have prepared with original buttons & s-rings to add after i have washed it a couple of times.

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#9 15-05-2012 21:26:30

andre1983nl
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Re: repro tunic

I found out that the both tunics are from Sturm/Mil-Tec, but the one on Ebay is 2gen / improved /updated version of the other one.


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#10 16-05-2012 09:37:33

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Re: repro tunic

Yes, i suspected that mad but what can you do, theres not much to choose from. Good repro blue-ish litzen is even harder to find..

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#11 16-05-2012 10:33:58

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#12 16-05-2012 23:19:14

andre1983nl
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Re: repro tunic

horrible color if you ask me.


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#13 17-05-2012 04:49:17

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Re: repro tunic

The worst one I seen is from www.ima-usa.com.

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#14 17-05-2012 04:59:01

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Re: repro tunic

If anyone has info about reproduction uniforms I would appreciate it, I have items that I bought and can share it with the group.

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#15 17-05-2012 12:53:08

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Re: repro tunic

The worst one I seen is from www.ima-usa.com.

Very nice web site thanks desertratter !

Sebastian

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#16 08-06-2012 09:50:20

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Re: repro tunic

I bought a tunic and trousers from epic militaria, in the photo it was a good shade of olive green, when it arrived it was a lot darker than the picture, still it is very well made.

http://www.epicmilitaria.com/product.ph … live-green

But then i spotted this and wished i had spent a little more

http://www.richardaunderwood.com/produc … cts_id=224

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#17 22-08-2012 18:35:04

fez
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Re: repro tunic

I just bought an epic militaria DAK tunic but i dont think i like it, how have you guys got on with yours ??
Fez

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#18 23-08-2012 04:30:41

desertratter
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Re: repro tunic

Its hard to compare just by looking at pictures, you will not be able to tell the quality of material. Its best to ask reenactors who have experience in buying from different  sellers and sizes are off sometimes. I have two sets both made in Asia which I am mostly happy with but until I see first hand then I will be able to tell how good or bad mine are. Also some good sellers do not sell DAK stuff anymore (maybe small market). If you buy ones made in Asia go up one size higher. And keep in mind that if you wash them they will shrink but with washing them you will get the uniform to fade which makes it look better , just like the real ones. I can tell you about boots which I have two different sets, one short and the other tall.

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#19 23-08-2012 18:19:43

fez
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Re: repro tunic

Ah, boots. Thats my next question. I have seen a few different copy's but none that look right.

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#20 25-08-2012 15:27:22

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Re: repro tunic

I bought low boots from "The historybunker.co.uk, they come with hobnails, however the lining around the heel started to come off,I had to glue them back on. Also the eyelets for the laces inside of the boot sometimes catch on the socks and snag them. My tall boots I purchased from'' Smwholesales' are better quality and more expensive, they do not come with hobnails and I thought they can be taller (Or maybe I am to tall). "Smwholesales" also has low boots and look to be of the same quality as the tall boots. I bought hobnails from 'Atthefront' but you have to know how to put them on or go to a shoerepair to install them. One problem with the DAK uniform is buying a the right color belt, 'smwholesales has a olive drab colored belt most DAK belts come in tan which doesnot look right with a dark green uniform, hope this helps.

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#21 30-08-2012 07:51:09

Wessels
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Re: repro tunic

The SM Wholesale tropical boots (also sold by At The Front) are nice...but UNFORTUNATELY...the canvas is not even CLOSE to the originals! It is nothing like anything German WWII material. It is almost like a thin pooling material such as a Vietnam War era US shelter half. I was very disappointed when I saw it. The At The Front repro bread bags are made if the correct canvas for tropical boots...but that is ironically the wrong material for bread bags! Does anybody know how to simply copy what once was!?!?!


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#22 30-08-2012 08:03:03

Wessels
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Re: repro tunic

Hessen Antiques has (in my opinion) are the best repro tropical Heer tumics on the market today. They offer both 1st and 2nd pattern. I obtained a 1st pattern a.d am very pleased with the color, cut, fabric (even though no repro fabric is the same as the original) and details.
The buttons need to either be stripped and repainted (they are too dark) or replaced with originals. Ironing the fabric helped give it a look more like the original fabric. Unfortunately though...the lining material is the same as the outter material. I hope this helps!


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#23 31-08-2012 05:35:34

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Re: repro tunic

Wessels, You're absolutely right, the Hessian tunics are the best out there as of yet. For those looking into one, take note, Hessian sells two types of first pattern tunic, one is priced at $85 dollars - the other (by Sturm) is priced at $69 dollars. Word to the wise: DO NOT BUY THE STURM brand tunic! You will find Sturm brand tunics on eBay, IMA, Hessian, Epic Militaria, ans several other sites..... Sturm is a low end tunic. Do not buy it.

For those interested in the differences - do not get stupid and go for the cheaper one just because it saves you a measly $16 dollars! I have one of these tunics and here is what I have found.
1. The chest pocket flaps have a very subdued (flat) scallop. I don't understand this - the lower pockets have a decent scallop!
2. The belt hook straps are made of a cheap rayon (yes, the German's used rayon... but NOT on the tropical tunics during the Afrikan campaign).
3. The internal bandage pocket is too wide.
4. The tunic buttons are a sea foam green plastic and require immediate replacement
5. The cuff buttons are the cheap pot metal aluminum zelt bahn buttons that look nothing like the originals.
6. Out of the box, the tunic (and the pants) is far FAR too green.
7. The fit is rather sloppy
8. The shoulder boards that are included are stupid and are about as useful as 100 grit toilette paper.

Regarding the Sturm pants:
1. The buttons are the lame cheap pot metal dish buttons that appear on too many of the Hong Kong made items.
2. They are dyed with a chemical that NEVER FADES in the sun.

Over the last year I have been diligently sun fading both the tunic and pants. The tunic has faded quite nicely, the pants however are as green as the day they came out of the box. Unless you don't mind walking around like Gumby, these are going to be awkward.  Given that, I have gone to the extreme and have begun using bleach. The pants are just now starting to fade, they may be salvageable. I'll have to get back to you on that one.

That being said, these tunics can be made to look better; however, they require extensive work. Spending the extra $16 will save you a lot of time and effort.

For those that prefer the sun faded Afrikan veteran tunic, do what they did: fade the tunic in the sun! Do not buy the reproduction Heer tunics made of the tan material. They should be a greenish brown and then faded to achieve the correct look. (The only factory tan Heer tunics were made later in the war after the Afrikan campaign for use on the southern front in 1945 - aka Southern Berlin!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iNHlopCVRpw/UEAwpe94SJI/AAAAAAAAB8Y/vwDb3VH-2HY/s500/Hessian.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ncCl_wVg_wc/UEAwo8lB_dI/AAAAAAAAB8Y/Pv_jNVpbf14/s547/Sturm%2520Tunic.jpg

Last edited by Unfront (31-08-2012 15:50:21)


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#24 31-08-2012 08:23:25

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Re: repro tunic

Here are a few more photos of a Sturm tunic - starting with a uniform as it appears out of the box (albeit with insignia added aftermarket).
Note that it is too green! Makes the insignia look weird (the insignia is almost spot on - the tunic however, is not).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Fi7hEuHevxI/UEBMFO9yuxI/AAAAAAAACAM/9sItdcj7gGI/s512/Sturm%2520in%2520Use.jpg

Aside from the almost bluish green color and weak chest pocket flap scallops, here are some detail photos that show the problems with the cheapo Sturm tunic once you get under the hood:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dxh4SpPV--o/UEBVuLLZfNI/AAAAAAAACBA/5cKLsOSZ0xA/s800/P8300456.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3DB_pjpbPLw/UEBRMfccdvI/AAAAAAAACAo/ypq27NwWVc0/s800/P8300452.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VOfSoYTxtG4/UEBa_J3wU5I/AAAAAAAACBs/EsOuQlNA2bU/s800/P8300462.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yoM_pjeEezc/UEBYr4GgzOI/AAAAAAAACBU/HnOFoP6E95A/s800/P8300464.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RHmvkLxKNWc/UEBYsQEY4cI/AAAAAAAACBc/ejTfaljpzM0/s800/P8300465.JPG

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#25 31-08-2012 09:04:50

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Re: repro tunic

Here is a photo series of the Sturm tunic after I have "hot rodded" it to make it somewhat acceptable:

Same tunic after about 6 months of sun fading (NO BLEACH NEEDED):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mbz8LkEUKB4/UEBKEbSVWzI/AAAAAAAAB8k/b795aNozd7g/s512/P8300442.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FJpJjZ10mec/UEBKYO6Ru9I/AAAAAAAAB9I/yRVH7TQ-o08/s800/P8300446.JPG

The reproduction Heer tropical tunics made of lighter factory tan material will not give you this effect:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9zc9HZd554k/UEBKdMA3xBI/AAAAAAAAB9Q/lXWFmoHdDPw/s800/P8300447.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hU80bmxuk-8/UEBLNjmCPkI/AAAAAAAAB-c/yGocM3N8n0w/s800/P8300458.JPG

I have replaced all of the tunic buttons with correct 19mm steel tunic buttons from At The Front - spray painted them the correct OD color. (Watch out for idiot sellers on eBay selling "tropical tunic buttons" by the pant load with tan paint - they should be olive not tan!)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7fyo_bJafSE/UEBKn0l6ubI/AAAAAAAAB9g/unypVeVum8Q/s800/P8300449.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tNN-pdRk9ec/UEBLIZESSSI/AAAAAAAAB-U/ako6mKxVdcw/s800/P8300457.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kodQP9Dvr1Q/UEBKzNk2DVI/AAAAAAAAB90/qz2VfptBqJc/s800/P8300451.JPG

While not 100% spot on (four feathers instead of the correct five) - these are some of the better reproduction tropical eagles that you will find. The material and color are correct.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nZl8Wnsg9YY/UEBKSIeaWSI/AAAAAAAAB88/4iYMFa25wWQ/s800/P8300445.JPG
Classic "Zip and Flip" application - machine sewn across the top, hand sewn on the rest. There are other application styles which are also correct - but this style was very common.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k8Jmw8ZcwwM/UEBKtn7tcGI/AAAAAAAAB9o/cwxQLWvF6c4/s800/P8300450.JPG

I have opted to add brown tunic belt hooks - some tunics had belt hooks that were not painted, some were. I have painted these to match the original examples that I have seen.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RzKR80vWmog/UEBKigrbMLI/AAAAAAAAB9Y/70TUMtlAII4/s800/P8300448.JPG

More accurate reproduction shoulder boards:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-17k0KQQQwc8/UEBL1D99I9I/AAAAAAAAB_k/yt2rJDIJ7GI/s800/P8300473.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0p5Z9NRXIw8/UEBLwn4fCEI/AAAAAAAAB_c/PFC2xAlIrrI/s800/P8300472.JPG

I removed the chintzy cheapo zelt buttons and added these authentic paper buttons:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4VjHTOP8Ayg/UEBL69d59BI/AAAAAAAAB_s/QjvXZnI6mik/s800/P8300475.JPG

Added a wool backed tropical Gefreiter chevron to add a little glitter to the uniform:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c5_cZDXvdTY/UEBKMGkYlLI/AAAAAAAAB80/EQ6cKrfjHzo/s800/P8300444.JPG

Make no doubt about it, the Sturm brand tunic would not be my first choice for a reproduction tropical tunic, however, the tunic can be hot rodded to make a better uniform. That being said, I still plan on buying the $85 Hessian tunic and performing many of the same upgrades for what I hope to be a truly authentic looking reproduction tropical tunic package.

Last edited by Unfront (31-08-2012 15:56:34)


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