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#1 15-07-2016 17:11:37

zip3120
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DAK Coat

Hi friends
here is my Coat.

your opinions are welcome smile

Ciao
Marco

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#2 15-07-2016 19:48:35

RRA227
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Re: DAK Coat

Nice mantel. Rich A. in Pa.


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#3 15-07-2016 20:00:30

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Re: DAK Coat

Ciao Marco.
I know nothing about these blanket coats but i like what i see here.
Have you tried any straps on it?


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#4 15-07-2016 20:46:40

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Re: DAK Coat

thanks mates
unfortunately I have no straps  sad
I am looking for them....

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#5 16-07-2016 01:35:31

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Re: DAK Coat

Looks like a nice salty example smile
Are the back-strap buttons (under the flaps) still present? Is the maker stamp in the inner pocket lining?
Cheers!
Mark


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#6 16-07-2016 15:50:14

zip3120
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Re: DAK Coat

Mark
do you mean these buttons?

http://i65.tinypic.com/97o6k0.jpg


Yes there is a maker mark, but is difficult to read...

it seems

Mix??rte
Hans Sra?hoff
....

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#7 18-07-2016 03:00:06

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Re: DAK Coat

Thanks Marco,
Indeed! I have one by the same maker, I think. I must check.
Mark


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#8 22-07-2016 14:27:12

zip3120
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Re: DAK Coat

Hi my friends
I am happy because, making the el alamain mannequin, I discovered that what I thought to be a damage by moths and a crease from storage are instead signs of wearing the gas mask container.
Ciao

http://i64.tinypic.com/2dsiw6a.jpg.

http://i63.tinypic.com/345l8wz.jpg

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#9 28-07-2016 21:28:35

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Re: DAK Coat

Hi friends
I have just finish to restore the coat.
I repaired the cut on the rear neck and the hole on the front.

http://i68.tinypic.com/308whno.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/2h6hj4g.jpg

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Last edited by zip3120 (28-07-2016 21:30:55)

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#10 29-07-2016 12:45:33

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Re: DAK Coat

Nice result Marco.
Nothing is visible.


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#11 29-07-2016 17:07:24

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Re: DAK Coat

Thanks Chris
after 35 years spent cutting and sewing people I have gained some experience .. wink

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#12 29-07-2016 18:09:04

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Re: DAK Coat

This is my german soldier of el alamein section.
He is a panzergrenadier  of 125°regiment, 164th Light Afrika Division.
This division in the early phase of the last el alamein battle suffered the brunt of of the Australian 26th brigade, 9th infantry division.

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Here below is its enemy, a man of 2/23rd Australian Infantry Battalion (Victoria), 26th Infantry Brigade,  9th Australian Division, XXX Corps.
Its sleeve badge is Brown over Red (Mud over Blood, they used to say).   

http://i68.tinypic.com/24bklqa.jpg
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#13 30-07-2016 09:26:21

The Magpie
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Re: DAK Coat

Just a comment about the gas mask container. In Afrika these were not carried, or if they were, they did not contain a gas mask. The solders took out the gas mask, threw it away and used the container to store personel items. Only the sappers actually bothered to carry a gas mask and this was only for a very short period.

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#14 30-07-2016 12:32:21

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Re: DAK Coat

Yes Tim you are right, indeed this mannequin has not the mask. The container is a correct Australian made model built in 1941 by General Motors Holden.

Another thing to note is the water bottle.  This type of water bottle was designed for use by MOUNTED RIFLES and CAMEL CORPS usage in the First World War.
The special type of "SLUNG" strap with metal rings was supposed to make it easier for the Cavalry soldier to take a drink while Mounted. For some reason Australian canteens of the WW2 era continued on with this "Mounted Rifles" design in most cases.
Ciao
Marco

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#15 30-07-2016 15:51:30

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Re: DAK Coat

Hello Marco my friend

Very nice set up of the Tobruk situation 1941, the 2/23rd, "mud over blood" classic !  Also the water bottle info is interesting, the Australians were thinking "forwards bayonet" no doubt.

The DAK also did not carry the gas mask in Afrika, the mask was also thrown away and the container usually used to carry extra rations ect.

caio
Tim

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#16 30-07-2016 23:51:50

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Re: DAK Coat

Yes Tim  2/23rd formed part of the garrison during the Siege of Tobruk, during which they took part in defensive actions and counter-attacks as they were moved around the perimeter; casualties were heavy, with over 200 personnel being killed, wounded or captured. In October 1941 they were relieved by Polish troops.
However this set is not of the Tobruk situation 1941 but of the 25 oct 1942 at El alamein. He wear heavy uniform and part of his equipment is dated 1942. ( after withdrawn from Tobruk they went to Palestine for a period of reorganisation. Then 2/23rd was sent to Syria and in June 1942 to El Alamein )

Below is a Polish Private First Class ( Starszy szeregowy ). Soldiers like this relieved the Australians at Tobruk in 1941. All its equipment is dated 1941!

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Polish are relieving Australians in Tobruk.

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#17 31-07-2016 08:39:10

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Re: DAK Coat

Hi Marco

Have never seen a Polish tropical setup before, very nice ! Of course the Poles were well known for being hard fighters no matter what the odds. They were the right unit to bring into Tobruk during the latter part of the siege in '41. As the Diggers were being withdrawn cause of protests back home. Japanese troops on the doorstep to Australia, "What are we doing in Africa when the enemy is right here  just off the coast" ?

Your incredible collection & knowledge is appreciated by everyone on this Forum

caio
Tim

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#18 31-07-2016 10:51:42

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Re: DAK Coat

Many thanks Tim for you kind words.
In all these years I've studied a lot Allied, Italian and Japanese uniforms and equipment, eliminating, I hope completely, the fakes that unfortunately often infect our collections.
Now is the turn of Germany, a tough and painful cookie! sad
please I need the help of all my friends here to do this....
Ciao
Marco

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#19 31-07-2016 16:36:08

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Re: DAK Coat

Hi Dermot
why do you say that the shirt does not like a standard WW2 aertex British issue?
this is a perfect standard WW2 aertex British issue.
It is open until mid-chest and closed by 4 buttons, the frontal pockets have the central pleats and flaps in the characteristic profile and slip-on straps. (However there were also shirt with fixed straps).
This shirt is marked inside the collar " 1  1941  /|\ T&H. "

You can see below the same shirt worn by my Scottish Warrant Officer 1st Btn. Gordon Highlanders, 153rd Infantry Brigade, 51st (Highland) Infantry Division, XXX Corps, on 24 October 1942.

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#20 31-07-2016 19:22:01

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Re: DAK Coat

Sorry Dermot I don't know Highway decorators, who were they?

Did you see the tropical shoulder straps of the 51st ID? they are very rare...

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#21 31-07-2016 20:39:13

zip3120
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Re: DAK Coat

I didn't know that nickname... very nice. Thank you mate.
I like very much the 51 HD.
I have many items related to it.
one Captain of Gordon Highladers uniform in aertex, original badged
one battle dress pattern 40 of the Queen's Own Cameron Highlander, 152° IB, 51° Highland ID, original badged and dated 1944
one tropical service dress jacket for wear with kilt of the Seaforth Highlanders.

Moreover all the kilts in the different 51° ID tartans
and all the regimentals tam o shanter of the 51 HD
Ciao

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#22 01-08-2016 10:22:27

The Magpie
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Re: DAK Coat

Ahh the Scots, almost as cool/crazy as the Irish cool

Another nice set up Marco and again D is spot on with HD "Highway Decoraters" Have seen several photos of HD over the years including Bengazi of all places.

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#23 01-08-2016 22:46:24

zip3120
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Re: DAK Coat

Thanks mates for your appreciation☺

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#24 02-08-2016 08:57:06

The Magpie
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Re: DAK Coat

Hi Marco

Did your Polish sidecap have the insignia attached when you found it ? or was it added later ?

Also when you have time i'm sure everyone would like to see more of your Highland collection smile

thanks
Tim

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#25 02-08-2016 14:02:10

zip3120
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Re: DAK Coat

Ciao Tim
Yes the polish sidecap had the insigna attached when I found it.
I think that is very very rare to find that tropical badge to attach to a cap.
Moreover that badge is clearly sunburned. It is arched by the sun.
Now I am on holiday, if you shold like I can post some close up of it and other HD items when I come back home.

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