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#1 22-04-2016 20:30:25

RoyA
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Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

Hello gents,

Is there any consensus on dating tropical shoulder straps?

I've seen examples with cotton backing, bottle green wool backing and feldgrau wool backing and suspect the first two would be considered "early".

Thanks for your time!

Roy

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#2 22-04-2016 23:41:49

msteve21
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Re: Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

Good question Roy,

I'm of the opinion (please critique if its wrong)  that the early straps for the North Afrika campaign had the brown wool backing and from 43 onwards straps were produced with a field grey wool backing.

Post 43 straps will show a wide variation in the backing wool colour, hence they are easy to reproduce

Early straps utilised both wool and rayon piping 

I'm certainly no expert on straps and welcome input from our more learned members in this area

Mark S

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#3 23-04-2016 20:26:33

don_kihotis7
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Re: Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

I agree that the ones with brown backing wool are considered to be early but not specifically up to '43. Feldgrau wool is also found on earlier examples judging by their woolen piping.
I haven't seen any with cotton backing though. Heer straps always have to have wool on the back. Luftwaffe can be seen with cotton or linen.


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#4 18-06-2016 01:56:52

The Magpie
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Re: Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

Agree with the above comments. Brown backing denotes earlier, gray later except gray backed tropical straps could be as early as 41,  so no set rule. Likely as the makers ran out of the brown material they had been using switched over to gray material.

Fakers are using original materials and getting better at the sewing tech in there persuit to fool collectors.

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#5 18-06-2016 02:30:57

RoyA
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Re: Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

Thank you very much Magpie.
I have a '41 dated tunic with gray-backed straps so it's good to know they may be original to the tunic.
Much appreciate your taking the time to respond.
Roy

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#6 20-06-2016 01:01:32

NZMark
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Re: Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

The Magpie wrote:

Agree with the above comments. Brown backing denotes earlier, gray later except gray backed tropical straps could be as early as 41,  so no set rule. Likely as the makers ran out of the brown material they had been using switched over to gray material.

Fakers are using original materials and getting better at the sewing tech in there persuit to fool collectors.

Agree with Tim,
I think from '42 onwards continental grey backing was seen on straps sent to Africa, while we also should not forget they were also being sent to Russia.
Mark.


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#7 20-06-2016 16:44:55

don_kihotis7
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Re: Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

Hi Tim, nice to see that the ban/IP issue has been resolved.


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#8 20-06-2016 20:58:15

The Magpie
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Re: Dating Tropical Shoulder Straps

don_kihotis7 wrote:

Hi Tim, nice to see that the ban/IP issue has been resolved.

Hi Chris

Thanks its great to be back !

Cheers
Tim

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