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#1 13-04-2011 23:01:38

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How about them Pith Helmets!

I thought I'd start a thread on Pith Helmets. Show us your pith helmets - various makers, branch of service...

Here are a few photos of my canvas pith helmet:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_w1w5xExyXnU/SSjymvhX3xI/AAAAAAAAA1s/yMgf3iMGHrA/s640/DSCN0027.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_w1w5xExyXnU/SSjymnFZ-uI/AAAAAAAAA10/IPN2gE6DUrI/s640/DSCN0028.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_w1w5xExyXnU/SSjymjEHUFI/AAAAAAAAA2E/fJ-p0xW7ljw/s512/DSCN0029.JPG


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#2 13-04-2011 23:22:49

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Erik,
Superb pith!
I only have two - one brought back from Italy (the later felt version) and a salty, sun-faded 1st type...
Cheers!
Mark
http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/3_pith_8.jpg
http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/3_pith_5.jpg

Last edited by NZMark (13-04-2011 23:30:29)


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#3 13-04-2011 23:42:52

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

I found this one...

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2_155.jpg
http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/2_poss.jpg

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#4 14-04-2011 05:22:00

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Sebastien,
Your felt pith can be re-shaped with care to it's former glory - STEAM. Gently steam the shell (after removing the liner) and push the felt back into position. Easy!
Mark


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#5 14-04-2011 14:10:46

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Here is my Green 1st pattern Heer tropenhelm.  It came from Matt, thanks.  1942 dated and made by ITA.  I have some more to post.


Regards,

Jerry


http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_green_1st_pattern_montage-small.jpg


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Jerry B.

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#6 14-04-2011 14:13:26

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Here is my 2nd pattern Heer tropenhelm.  No history with it, but it looks to have been there.

Regards,

Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_2nd_pattern_heer_pith_montage.jpg


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Jerry B.

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#7 14-04-2011 14:21:31

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Not sure what to call this one, possibly a tan 1st pattern Heer, though it has natural brown leather trim and  natural colour chinstrap.  Made by Halfar, with a different shade of red to the dome lining than normally seen.  1941 dated.  It could be KM or Luftwaffe or Heer or SS or NSKK, but as it has never been badged, though clearly used, it's hard to say which arm of service it was issued to.  It's a green tinted tan colour, though it looks different colours in the pictures.

Regards,

Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_1st_pat_no_badge_3_different_colours.jpg


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Jerry B.

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#8 14-04-2011 14:25:54

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Here is my Italian M1928 2nd pattern pith helmet, reissued to the Kreigsmarine, with early or theater made Helmet shields.

Regards,

Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_km_italian_pith_montage1_-_copy.jpg


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#9 14-04-2011 14:37:08

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Here is my Luftwaffe tan coloured tropenhelm, 1941 dated and made by SH.  Missing it's chinstrap and both shields, the latter which I replaced.

Regards,

Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_luft_pith_no2_-_copy.jpg


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#10 14-04-2011 14:44:19

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Here is my other Luftwaffe tropenhelm, made by Clemens Wagner and rarely seen for the Luftwaffe by this maker. No date mark and it was missing it's eagle, which I replaced.

Regards,

Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_2010_0402newluftpithagain0002_-_copy.jpg


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Jerry B.

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#11 14-04-2011 17:26:12

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

These are some decent piths...some with a little salt too. Mine was unissued so there is no history to it.  I did have a 43 dated green Luftwaffe pith at one time... missing the eagle. Sadly, as soon as a traded it off, I found an appropriate zinc eagle for it.... oh well. I'd like to find a decent Luftwaffe pith some day. We shall see.

Regarding the felt pith: did they ever see service in Afrika? I ask because I have seen some felt pith helmets with a 1942 date on them. I'll have to post a photo when it turns up.


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#12 14-04-2011 17:43:19

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Unfront wrote:

These are some decent piths...some with a little salt too. Mine was unissued so there is no history to it.  I did have a 43 dated green Luftwaffe pith at one time... missing the eagle. Sadly, as soon as a traded it off, I found an appropriate zinc eagle for it.... oh well. I'd like to find a decent Luftwaffe pith some day. We shall see.

Regarding the felt pith: did they ever see service in Afrika? I ask because I have seen some felt pith helmets with a 1942 date on them. I'll have to post a photo when it turns up.

Hi,

most people with an opinion say that 2nd pattern felt tropenhelms were not issued in Africa, though one person said they had seen some in a picture of piles of German kit, after the surrender in Tunisia.

I have seen 1941 dated 2nd pattern tropenhelms, see pic below, from one of them.

Regards,

Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_orw_mm.jpg

Last edited by VonBond (14-04-2011 17:43:33)


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Jerry B.

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#13 14-04-2011 21:00:32

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Whoooo nice thread !

thanks Mark, jerry your collection is incredible !

Sebastien

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#14 14-04-2011 22:35:54

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Jerry,
WOW!


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#15 15-04-2011 05:29:26

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

You have to love those patched up piths, hard to find them, and that olive 1st pattern Heer is over the top Mate!!

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#16 16-04-2011 10:32:17

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Thanks to all for the good words.

Regards,

Jerry


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#17 16-04-2011 10:53:19

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Incredible !

Gent, have you a value for a original Waffen ss Pith Helmets in good condition ?....

Many thanks
Sebastien

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#18 21-04-2011 06:19:49

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Great piths! I still need to find a nice 1st pattern. Thanks for sharing.
Barry

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#19 23-04-2011 10:25:19

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Not from my collection, but one I would like to add.  This example is from Kurtz's Afrikakorps book, a German manufactured Blue canvas Luftwaffe tropenhelm, the holy grail for Tropenhelm collectors, IMO.



Regards,

Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_blue_luft_1_-_small.jpg


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#20 25-04-2011 18:05:04

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Hello Jerry, this one is very hard to find...
have you more details?

many thanks
Sebastien

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#21 26-04-2011 09:46:01

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

Hi Sebastien,

Only six of the blue Luft tropenhelms (of German manufacture) are known to exist in collections and I think they were all made by Carl Halfar. a not often seen maker for Tropenhelms.

Luft tropenhelms also came in tan, like those shown earlier and in green (this example used to belong to Andy C).

S.Vestae wrote:

Hello Jerry, this one is very hard to find...
have you more details?

many thanks
Sebastien

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_green_luft_pith_eagle_side.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_green_luft_pith_nat_colors_side.jpg

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_green_luft_pith_beneath.jpg


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Jerry B.

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#22 26-04-2011 10:23:35

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

hello Jerry,

nice helmet again ! the grey blue seems to be a recolored model in period ? or a true color added in the manufacture...

great thread !
Sebastien

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#23 26-04-2011 10:42:04

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

S.Vestae wrote:

hello Jerry,

nice helmet again ! the grey blue seems to be a recolored model in period ? or a true color added in the manufacture...

great thread !
Sebastien

Hi Sebastien,

The blue luft piths are manufactured that colour, including the leather trim and chinstrap.

You sometimes see French made tropenhelms used by the Luftwaffe, but you also see other French piths dyed blue and rebadged, which makes the French ones less desirable.  Sometimes the French examples have Luftwaffe acceptance stamps (LBA), but again these can be faked.


http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_lufty_blue_pith_ebay.jpg


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Jerry B.

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#24 28-04-2011 15:09:44

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

I thought these might be of interest.


Jerry

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/10_z_pith_sheilds_on_card_front.jpg


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Jerry B.

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#25 28-04-2011 20:34:38

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Re: How about them Pith Helmets!

thanks for your explication Jerry

1966 ? about your historical paperboard ?

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